1989 Yamaha Route 66

[JerryG]

Hello, all. Any history on this bike of throttles sticking open or
opening spontaneously?


Gerard Gormley
7 Washington Street
Manchester-by-the-Sea MA 01944
http://www.GerardGormleyBooks.com




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[krusty kritter]

Post by JerryG
Hello, all. Any history on this bike of throttles sticking open or
opening spontaneously?
Sent via MotorCycle Newsgroups
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So, what's the deal with MotorCycle Newsgroups? Does it cross post this
query to every MC-oriented NG on the web?

[LJ]

Post by krusty kritter

Post by JerryG
Hello, all. Any history on this bike of throttles sticking open or
opening spontaneously?
Sent via MotorCycle Newsgroups
http://www.motorcyclenewsgroups.com

So, what's the deal with MotorCycle Newsgroups? Does it cross post this
query to every MC-oriented NG on the web?

just what every lazy ambulance-chaser needs

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by JerryG
Hello, all. Any history on this bike of throttles sticking open or
opening spontaneously?

You've crashed it, and you're looking for someon to blame, right?

And AFAIK *no* motorcycle throttle can open spontaneously.

[R. Pierce Butler]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by JerryG
Hello, all. Any history on this bike of throttles sticking open or
opening spontaneously?

You've crashed it, and you're looking for someon to blame, right?
And AFAIK *no* motorcycle throttle can open spontaneously.

I have not heard of any motorcycle make or model having a tendency to do
either things.

Spontaneously open? I suppose if a bellcrank were loose on the carb
shafts. That sort of problem would be easily identifiable.

Sticking? If there was a mechanical failure or cables were misrouted, etc.

Come to think of it, if a mechanically inexperienced person were to drive a
motorcycle that did have the bellcrank loose on the throttle shaft, they
might use a description very similar to what you just used.


pierce

[Rick Cortese]

Post by R. Pierce Butler

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by JerryG
Hello, all. Any history on this bike of throttles sticking open or
opening spontaneously?

You've crashed it, and you're looking for someon to blame, right?
And AFAIK *no* motorcycle throttle can open spontaneously.

I have not heard of any motorcycle make or model having a tendency to do
either things.

FWIW: Long story, you may not want to read it. I bought another Honda
MT250 this spring with the intent of getting it on the street. After a
quick and dirty rebuild I was having trouble getting it to idle.

MTs have a funny idle circuit. They use a huge jet and have a mixture
screw with a hole in the middle of it. It is kind of like a banjo
fitting in that even with the screw all the way in, the hole makes it so
it is still open.

The mixture screw on the MT was completely corroded in. I ended up
having to drill it out. I didn't have an exact replacement, so I just
scavaged one w/o the hole in it off another carb.

So with the wrong screw the new MT didn't idle worth beans, not a lot of
throttle response down low, that kind of stuff. Thinking maybe I was
loving the pooch with my rebuild I switched the carb over to my 'good'
MT to see if it displayed the same symptoms.

Sure enough, same symptons on the same model but a different bike. I
ended up screwing the idle screw all the way in/max opening. It would
still die after 5-10 secs with the throttle off.

So I decides to maybe it just needs to be wrung out a bit to clear any
gunk left in it. As I am starting it I notice the over flow is over
flowing, the rebuild kit hadn't got here yet, so I shut off the petcock
while I am kicking it over. The puppy starts, I shut off the
choke/enrichment lever, and take off down the road for a couple of WOT
roll off throttle cycles.

Notice I didn't say I turned the petcock back on. That is because I
didn't turn the petcock back on. Turned out at idle it was running so
rich it was killing the engine. Soon as the float bowl emptied a bit and
leaned out the carburation it was suddenly trying to idle at ~6,000
RPMs. I crashed so hard my dead relatives felt it.

Punch line is There is at least one other senario where you can get an
engine that to the casual observer would seem like a spontaneous
throttle opening.

Anyway, I agree I haven't seen a throttle spontaneously open. I think
there was one time where I had a throttle cable got hooked on something
and everytime I made a left hand turn it pulled the throttle open, but I
wouldn't call that spontaneous.

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by R. Pierce Butler
I have not heard of any motorcycle make or model having a tendency to do
either things.

Sticking throttles? You *are* joking? I've known loads of cases.

[R. Pierce Butler]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by R. Pierce Butler
I have not heard of any motorcycle make or model having a tendency to do
either things.

Sticking throttles? You *are* joking? I've known loads of cases.

But have you heard of a particular model that did it on a consistent basis?
I have not heard of a particular model that had a recurring problem like
that.

pierce

[SC_Tom]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by R. Pierce Butler
I have not heard of any motorcycle make or model having a tendency to do
either things.

Sticking throttles? You *are* joking? I've known loads of cases.
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Name one specific model where there is or was a known problem of having a
sticking throttle.

No bike manufacturer could afford for this to happen, they would be sued out
of business.

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by SC_Tom
Name one specific model where there is or was a known problem of having a
sticking throttle.

I was thinking of loads of antique shit I've owned in the past, where
sticking throttles could be due to cables that frayed prematurely,
utterly crap throttle grip housings, inadequate carb return springs etc.

However, I admit these were, as I say, in the past.

But then, much more recently, there were devices delibrately designed to
make them stick - throttle adjustment screws. Old airhead BMWs had them,
as did a Guzzi I once owned. A friction screw that bore on the twistgrip
tube. And a US company called Vanda-Cruise even marketed an aftermarket
device that did the same, as a "cruise control"

Post by SC_Tom
No bike manufacturer could afford for this to happen, they would be sued out
of business.

See above. I'm not sure if these devices still exist, but that doesn't
alter the fact that they did and there are plenty of bikes equipped with
them still on the road. You don't know enough about motorcycles, really,
do you?

[SC_Tom]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by SC_Tom
Name one specific model where there is or was a known problem of having a
sticking throttle.

I was thinking of loads of antique shit I've owned in the past, where
sticking throttles could be due to cables that frayed prematurely,
utterly crap throttle grip housings, inadequate carb return springs etc.
However, I admit these were, as I say, in the past.
But then, much more recently, there were devices delibrately designed to
make them stick - throttle adjustment screws. Old airhead BMWs had them,
as did a Guzzi I once owned. A friction screw that bore on the twistgrip
tube. And a US company called Vanda-Cruise even marketed an aftermarket
device that did the same, as a "cruise control"

Post by SC_Tom
No bike manufacturer could afford for this to happen, they would be sued out
of business.

See above. I'm not sure if these devices still exist, but that doesn't
alter the fact that they did and there are plenty of bikes equipped with
them still on the road. You don't know enough about motorcycles, really,
do you?

You are really clueless. You offer old antique bikes, really one offs, as
"proof" to back your bogus claims. Then you start to mention poor
maintenance habits as proof, when the orginal post was questioning wether
sticking throttle problems exist on newer bikes. You even "cliped" the post
so someone just begining to read this post has no idea what is being
discussed. What a loser.

As for after market devices, I'm sure the orginal poster was not discussing
this either. Quit twisting everyones words around. All your doing is making
a complete ass of yourself.

I've forgotten more about motorcycles than you will ever know.

I'm begining to think all you do all day is troll for attention as you
rarely have anything constructive to add to any discussion.

Tom (I don't hide my real name)

[c***@btinternet.com]

Post by SC_Tom

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by SC_Tom
Name one specific model where there is or was a known problem of having

a

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by SC_Tom
sticking throttle.

I was thinking of loads of antique shit I've owned in the past, where
sticking throttles could be due to cables that frayed prematurely,
utterly crap throttle grip housings, inadequate carb return springs etc.
However, I admit these were, as I say, in the past.
But then, much more recently, there were devices delibrately designed to
make them stick - throttle adjustment screws. Old airhead BMWs had them,
as did a Guzzi I once owned. A friction screw that bore on the twistgrip
tube. And a US company called Vanda-Cruise even marketed an aftermarket
device that did the same, as a "cruise control"

Post by SC_Tom
No bike manufacturer could afford for this to happen, they would be sued

out

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by SC_Tom
of business.

See above. I'm not sure if these devices still exist, but that doesn't
alter the fact that they did and there are plenty of bikes equipped with
them still on the road. You don't know enough about motorcycles, really,
do you?

You are really clueless. You offer old antique bikes, really one offs, as
"proof" to back your bogus claims. Then you start to mention poor
maintenance habits as proof, when the orginal post was questioning wether
sticking throttle problems exist on newer bikes. You even "cliped" the post
so someone just begining to read this post has no idea what is being
discussed. What a loser.

The bikes I referred to are hardly antiques. BMW a nd Guzzi werefitting
friction adjusters to its machines well into the 1980s, and quite
possibly beyond.

Post by SC_Tom
As for after market devices, I'm sure the orginal poster was not discussing
this either. Quit twisting everyones words around. All your doing is making
a complete ass of yourself.

I'm not twisting words around. I merely mentioned earlier that I had
never heard of a throttle self-opening, but knew lots of instances of
sticking throttles. The original poster never mentioned maintenance
problems, and they are probably the leading cause of sticking
throttles.

Post by SC_Tom
I've forgotten more about motorcycles than you will ever know.

That is evident. Shame you never renewed the knowledge. The examples I
have posted are entirely valid and in context. You're just peeved
because you didn't think of them. Or anything else.

Post by SC_Tom
I'm begining to think all you do all day is troll for attention as you
rarely have anything constructive to add to any discussion.

Well, as you've come from another thread to this one, to post your
bullshit, I think this claim is laughable.

Post by SC_Tom
Tom (I don't hide my real name)

And nor do I. I'm very easy to find.

[krusty kritter]

Post by SC_Tom
Name one specific model where there is or was a known problem of having a
sticking throttle.
No bike manufacturer could afford for this to happen, they would be sued out
of business.

Motorcycles generally *do* have a greater tendancy toward loss of
throttle control and sudden acceleration than cars have. Many
possibilities include problems with the cables, cable rigging, and old
slide valve carbs used to warp when the mechanic tightened the nuts
holding the carb to the cylinder head and the throttle would stick.
Also, when the motorbike is laying on its side after a crash, gasoline
can get dumped into the venturi by gravity and the engine screams at
high RPM until the rider (or a bystander) operates the key or
killswitch.

This is what happened to Gerard, the original poster, it's why he

Post by SC_Tom
I recently bought a 1989 Yamaha Route 66 Virago 250. Took a half-day
class riding lesson and a one-hour private lesson. First rode my own
bike 9-30-­05 in an empty parking lot near my home, doing slow circles
in first gear. As I approached a fence, the bike shot ahead and punched
a hole through the fence, then fell onto its left side. Being a novice,
I assumed that I had panicked and cranked the throttle wide open. But as
I lay under the bike, my right hand nowhere near the throttle, right
handlebar in the air and throttle clear, the engine continued to race,
as if it had spontaneously opened the throttle wide. I closed the engine
cut-off switch. Minor injuries.

[SC_Tom]

Post by SC_Tom
Name one specific model where there is or was a known problem of having a
sticking throttle.
No bike manufacturer could afford for this to happen, they would be sued out
of business.

Motorcycles generally *do* have a greater tendancy toward loss of
throttle control and sudden acceleration than cars have. Many
possibilities include problems with the cables, cable rigging, and old
slide valve carbs used to warp when the mechanic tightened the nuts
holding the carb to the cylinder head and the throttle would stick.
Also, when the motorbike is laying on its side after a crash, gasoline
can get dumped into the venturi by gravity and the engine screams at
high RPM until the rider (or a bystander) operates the key or
killswitch.

This is what happened to Gerard, the original poster, it's why he

Post by SC_Tom
I recently bought a 1989 Yamaha Route 66 Virago 250. Took a half-day
class riding lesson and a one-hour private lesson. First rode my own
bike 9-30-­05 in an empty parking lot near my home, doing slow circles
in first gear. As I approached a fence, the bike shot ahead and punched
a hole through the fence, then fell onto its left side. Being a novice,
I assumed that I had panicked and cranked the throttle wide open. But as
I lay under the bike, my right hand nowhere near the throttle, right
handlebar in the air and throttle clear, the engine continued to race,
as if it had spontaneously opened the throttle wide. I closed the engine
cut-off switch. Minor injuries.

My point exactly. Others posted there were many bikes that have sticking
throttle problems right out of the box.

Gerard bought a used bike of dubious background. Being a novice rider, he
should have had a friend or taken the bike to some shop to have it inspected
prior to riding it, paying real close attention to safety items (brakes,
kill switches, lights, smooth throttle operation, including turning the
handle bars full turn in both directions, etc.).

Anyone who does any maintenance on motorcycles learns fairly quickly taking
things apart is easy. It's putting things back together correctly that is
the hard part. I suspect Gerhard's bike just had some work done on it that
involved either the replacement of the throttle cable(s) or the fuel tank
was removed and the routing of the cable(s) was affected.

Be safe out there.

Just my 2 cents.

Tom

[c***@btinternet.com]

SC_Tom wrote:

<snip>

Post by SC_Tom
My point exactly. Others posted there were many bikes that have sticking
throttle problems right out of the box.

No, they didn't. Why do you post deliberate untruths? Why bother to lie
when the earlier postings are there?

Let's just review what I posted, in answer to another assertion. Here
we go:

STARTS
I have not heard of any motorcycle make or model having a tendency to
do
either things.


Sticking throttles? You *are* joking? I've known loads of cases.
ENDS

Who said: "Right out of the box?" Not me.

[SC_Tom]

I rest my case, your still not contributing anything to any discussion. You
have proven me right, you exist only to cause grief to those who allow it. I
do not choose to let your trolling incorrect, halve truths bother me.
Crawl back under what ever rock you came from, your now on my twit list.

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by SC_Tom
I rest my case

All you have managed to do is make yourself look an unpleasant
objectionable little creature who has not the wit to admit when he's in
error.

You see, I simply said I've known loads of instances where bike
throttles can stick, and cited poor maintenance, bikes whose throttles
are/were deliberate designed to stick, and even an after-market gadget
designed to make them stick.

Now, somehow you interpreted this as meaning I was claiming that loads
of bikes behaved that way "right out of the box" (your phrase) when, as
anyone else reading this thread can see, I made no such assertion. OK,
maybe you didn't read the posting properly, But you certainly jumped to
an incorrect conclusion.

As ever on usenet - when you screw up, best to fess up, and stop digging
a deeper hole. Had you said: "Oh, I thought you were referring to modern
bikes that had these faults built in, and now I see you weren't..."
nobody would think any the worse of you.

But you didn't.

<Fond memory>

I haven't had a cross-platform clueless stalker like you since Hoyt
(RIP). It's just like old times.

</fm>

[h***@gmail.com]

Post by R. Pierce Butler

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by JerryG
Hello, all. Any history on this bike of throttles sticking open or
opening spontaneously?

You've crashed it, and you're looking for someon to blame, right?
And AFAIK *no* motorcycle throttle can open spontaneously.
Well I'm here to tell ya it does happen!!!!!

I have not heard of any motorcycle make or model having a tendency to do
either things.
Spontaneously open? I suppose if a bellcrank were loose on the carb
shafts. That sort of problem would be easily identifiable.
Sticking? If there was a mechanical failure or cables were misrouted, etc.
Come to think of it, if a mechanically inexperienced person were to drive a
motorcycle that did have the bellcrank loose on the throttle shaft, they
might use a description very similar to what you just used.
pierce

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by R. Pierce Butler
pierce

Another fuckwit answering a decade-old post.

[Kidd Wicked]

On 12/30/14, ***@gmail.com said the following...

ha> On Monday, October 3, 2005 2:57:50 AM UTC-6, R. Pierce Butler
ha> wrote:
ha> > ***@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote
ha> in
ha> > news:1h3ujka.1q8kcsc8mbkdoN%***@dsl.pipex.com:
ha>
ha> >
ha> > > JerryG <***@GerardGormleyBooks.com> wrote:
ha> > >
ha> > >> Hello, all. Any history on this bike of throttles sticking
ha> open or
ha> > >> opening spontaneously?
ha> > >>
ha> > >>
ha> > > You've crashed it, and you're looking for someon to blame,
ha> right?
ha> > >
ha> > > And AFAIK *no* motorcycle throttle can open spontaneously.
ha> > >
ha> > > Well I'm here to tell ya it does happen!!!!!
ha> >
ha> > I have not heard of any motorcycle make or model having a
ha> tendency to do
ha> > either things.
ha> >
ha> > Spontaneously open? I suppose if a bellcrank were loose on the
ha> carb
ha> > shafts. That sort of problem would be easily identifiable.
ha> >
ha> > Sticking? If there was a mechanical failure or cables were
ha> misrouted, e
ha> >
ha> > Come to think of it, if a mechanically inexperienced person were
ha> to driv
ha> > motorcycle that did have the bellcrank loose on the throttle
ha> shaft, they
ha> > might use a description very similar to what you just used.
ha> >
ha> >
ha> > pierce

I have had it happen many times. I race dirt bike
enduro/harescramble.
Cable gets pulled out of the throttle body and sits on the housing..
When I
run out of fuel I get a huge surge. Float sticks and the overflow is
clogged
with mud. Lots of reasons..

[The Older Gentleman]

Kidd Wicked <***@sinnershaven.com> wrote:

<snip>

Christ, the fuckwits are celebrating the New Year early, aren't they?

[Kidd Wicked]

On 12/30/14, The Older Gentleman said the following...

TO> Christ, the fuckwits are celebrating the New Year early, aren't
TO> they?
TO>

Who the hell are you calling a fuckwit??

[Kidd Wicked]

On 12/30/14, The Older Gentleman said the following...

TO> From: ***@yahoo.co.uk
TO>
TO> Kidd Wicked <***@sinnershaven.com> wrote:
TO>
TO> <snip>
TO>
TO> Christ, the fuckwits are celebrating the New Year early, aren't
TO> they?
TO>

Now I understand what you are talking about. I don't use a news reader.
I am
linked to USNET via my bbs which does not show orginal post dates. So
when
something shows up in the message base it looks new..

[Mark Olson]

I am linked to USNET via my bbs

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[The Older Gentleman]

I am linked to USNET via my bbs

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/784/what-year-is-it
-robin-williams.jpg

More like:-

Loading Image...

[Kidd Wicked]

On 12/30/14, The Older Gentleman said the following...

TO> From: ***@yahoo.co.uk
TO>
TO> Mark Olson <***@tiny.invalid> wrote:
TO>
TO> > On 2014-12-30 12:17 PM, Kidd Wicked wrote:
TO> >
TO> > > I am linked to USNET via my bbs
TO> >
TO> >
TO> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/784/what-year-
TO> is-it
TO> -robin-williams.jpg
TO>
TO> More like:-
TO>
TO> http://cdn.meme.am/instances/55181788.jpg
TO>
TO>
TO> --

Funny how your giving me shit for using older tech, a bbs, when you
are
posting on something, Usenet, that is just as old as a bbs. I am sure
you
think older bikes suck too..

[Mark Olson]

Post by Kidd Wicked
On 12/30/14, The Older Gentleman said the following...
TO>
TO>
TO> >
TO> > > I am linked to USNET via my bbs
TO> >
TO> >
TO> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/784/what-year-
TO> is-it
TO> -robin-williams.jpg
TO>
TO> More like:-
TO>
TO> http://cdn.meme.am/instances/55181788.jpg
TO>
TO>
TO> --
Funny how your giving me shit for using older tech, a bbs, when you
are
posting on something, Usenet, that is just as old as a bbs. I am sure
you
think older bikes suck too..

Gotta live one here...

[Kidd Wicked]

On 12/30/14, Mark Olson said the following...

MO>
MO> Gotta live one here...

Sure do.. On that note I have shit-ton of stuff to do to my KTM
before the
next race and the FedEx guy just arrived.. New top-end. fork seals and
bushings, clutch fibers for my Rekluse, Sprockets and chain, float
needle.
Fun stuff.. Fortunatly I can access my bbs from my cell phone so I can
do
this all day and wrench on my dirt scooter also..:)

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by Mark Olson

Post by Kidd Wicked
On 12/30/14, The Older Gentleman said the following...
TO>
TO>
TO> >
TO> > > I am linked to USNET via my bbs
TO> >
TO> >
TO> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/784/what-year-
TO> is-it
TO> -robin-williams.jpg
TO>
TO> More like:-
TO>
TO> http://cdn.meme.am/instances/55181788.jpg
TO>
TO>
TO> --
Funny how your giving me shit for using older tech, a bbs, when you
are
posting on something, Usenet, that is just as old as a bbs. I am sure
you
think older bikes suck too..

Gotta live one here...

And one who can't read sigs, as well.

Actually, I think reading anything is probably a tough exercise for him.

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by Mark Olson

Post by Kidd Wicked
On 12/30/14, The Older Gentleman said the following...
TO>
TO>
TO> >
TO> > > I am linked to USNET via my bbs
TO> >
TO> >
TO> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/784/what-year-
TO> is-it
TO> -robin-williams.jpg
TO>
TO> More like:-
TO>
TO> http://cdn.meme.am/instances/55181788.jpg
TO>
TO>
TO> --
Funny how your giving me shit for using older tech, a bbs, when you
are
posting on something, Usenet, that is just as old as a bbs. I am sure
you
think older bikes suck too..

Gotta live one here...

And one who can't read sigs, as well.

Actually, I think reading anything is probably a tough exercise for him.

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by Kidd Wicked
Funny how your giving me shit for using older tech, a bbs, when you
are
posting on something, Usenet, that is just as old as a bbs. I am sure
you
think older bikes suck too..

Not giving you shit for using old tech at all. Giving you shit for
replying to a decade-old post, you moron.

As for the comment about older bikes... bwaaahahahahahahaha!

[Kidd Wicked]

On 12/31/14, The Older Gentleman said the following...

TO> From: ***@yahoo.co.uk
TO> Not giving you shit for using old tech at all. Giving you shit
TO> for
TO> replying to a decade-old post, you moron.

I already explained that it looked new on my bbs because the other
guy
responded to it and brought it to the front of the cue and it doesn't
show
the creation date. Could of just said that post was old instead of
calling me
a fuckwit and a moron. Nice way to act to someone who has never done
anything
to you. Change your name, you act nothing like one.

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by Kidd Wicked
On 12/31/14, The Older Gentleman said the following...
TO> Not giving you shit for using old tech at all. Giving you shit
TO> for
TO> replying to a decade-old post, you moron.
I already explained that it looked new on my bbs because the other
guy
responded to it and brought it to the front of the cue and it doesn't
show
the creation date. Could of just said that post was old instead of
calling me
a fuckwit and a moron. Nice way to act to someone who has never done
anything
to you. Change your name, you act nothing like one.

Well, learn to read sigs before you start mouthing off about how I think
older bikes suck.

And get a decent newsreadr.

Aaahhhhh, it's *years* since I've heard that one.

[Kidd Wicked]

On 12/31/14, The Older Gentleman said the following...

TO> From: ***@yahoo.co.uk
TO>
TO> Kidd Wicked <***@sinnershaven.com> wrote:
TO>
TO> > On 12/31/14, The Older Gentleman said the following...
TO> >
TO> > TO> From: ***@yahoo.co.uk
TO> > TO> Not giving you shit for using old tech at all. Giving you
TO> shit
TO> > TO> for
TO> > TO> replying to a decade-old post, you moron.
TO> >
TO> > I already explained that it looked new on my bbs because the
TO> other
TO> > guy
TO> > responded to it and brought it to the front of the cue and it
TO> doesn't
TO> > show
TO> > the creation date. Could of just said that post was old instead
TO> of
TO> > calling me
TO> > a fuckwit and a moron. Nice way to act to someone who has never
TO> done
TO> > anything
TO> > to you. Change your name, you act nothing like one.
TO>
TO>
TO> Well, learn to read sigs before you start mouthing off about how I
TO> think
TO> older bikes suck.
TO>
TO> And get a decent newsreadr.
TO>
TO> Aaahhhhh, it's *years* since I've heard that one.
TO>

i did read your sig and i know you have old bikes, i thought you were
making fun of the fact i am using a bbs since that is what you quoted
and put
your memes on. so i was making fun of the fact that you were dissing
old
stuff when you like old stuff.. get it..

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by Kidd Wicked
On 12/31/14, The Older Gentleman said the following...
TO>
TO>
TO> > On 12/31/14, The Older Gentleman said the following...
TO> >
TO> > TO> Not giving you shit for using old tech at all. Giving you
TO> shit
TO> > TO> for
TO> > TO> replying to a decade-old post, you moron.
TO> >
TO> > I already explained that it looked new on my bbs because the
TO> other
TO> > guy
TO> > responded to it and brought it to the front of the cue and it
TO> doesn't
TO> > show
TO> > the creation date. Could of just said that post was old instead
TO> of
TO> > calling me
TO> > a fuckwit and a moron. Nice way to act to someone who has never
TO> done
TO> > anything
TO> > to you. Change your name, you act nothing like one.
TO>
TO>
TO> Well, learn to read sigs before you start mouthing off about how I
TO> think
TO> older bikes suck.
TO>
TO> And get a decent newsreadr.
TO>
TO> Aaahhhhh, it's *years* since I've heard that one.
TO>
i did read your sig and i know you have old bikes, i thought you were
making fun of the fact i am using a bbs since that is what you quoted
and put
your memes on. so i was making fun of the fact that you were dissing
old
stuff when you like old stuff.. get it..

No.

Jesus, get a newsreader. Look above and see the shite you're posting.

[Kidd Wicked]

On a different note, if you havent already watched it, pick up a copy
"John
Penton" the movie. Great movie about a legend in the motorcycle world.