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Engine needed
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Futility Man
2018-07-24 02:45:24 UTC
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This is a long shot but I need an engine.

I need an engine for a 2009-2012 Kawasaki 750 Teryx side by side ATV. A 2008
will not work, it's a carb model and I need fuel injected. A 2013 will not work,
it's an 800. 750 engines from other Kawasaki ATVs or motorcycles will not work.

I will pay cash for a reasonable deal, I'll pick it up if it's a reasonable
distance from me. I am in East Tennessee.

I know about the Ebay rebuilt engines for $3,000. That is not an option I am
willing to pursue.

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Mark Olson
2018-07-24 10:35:48 UTC
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Post by Futility Man
This is a long shot but I need an engine.
I need an engine for a 2009-2012 Kawasaki 750 Teryx side by side ATV. A 2008
will not work, it's a carb model and I need fuel injected. A 2013 will not work,
it's an 800. 750 engines from other Kawasaki ATVs or motorcycles will not work.
I will pay cash for a reasonable deal, I'll pick it up if it's a reasonable
distance from me. I am in East Tennessee.
I know about the Ebay rebuilt engines for $3,000. That is not an option I am
willing to pursue.
Sounds like yours isn't rebuildable...
Futility Man
2018-07-24 14:52:07 UTC
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Post by Mark Olson
Sounds like yours isn't rebuildable...
It's rebuildable, but the shop I was talking to told me it wasn't cost
effective. I've found another shop that gave more hope but until we start
ordering parts, I'm still looking for an engine.

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Futility Man
Mark Olson
2018-07-24 17:21:11 UTC
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Post by Futility Man
Post by Mark Olson
Sounds like yours isn't rebuildable...
It's rebuildable, but the shop I was talking to told me it wasn't cost
effective. I've found another shop that gave more hope but until we start
ordering parts, I'm still looking for an engine.
I'm with you. I think a used factory engine is almost always better
than a rebuilt, unless the rebuild was done by a very skilled machine
shop. And unless the engine happens to be a rare one, the used route
is frequently cheaper, too.
Futility Man
2018-07-25 22:12:45 UTC
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Post by Mark Olson
I'm with you. I think a used factory engine is almost always better
than a rebuilt, unless the rebuild was done by a very skilled machine
shop. And unless the engine happens to be a rare one, the used route
is frequently cheaper, too.
Apparently these engines developed bottom end problems if run hard with low oil.
I've found a full rebuild kit with crank, rods, pistons and all the trimmings
for a little over $900 and I have a nephew like McGuyver who has offered his
help and his machine shop, so unless a new motor falls out of the sky before
next week, that's where we're going.

Someone sent me a link to a motor that had been pulled from a Brute Force, which
is not a direct swap and the description said it had been pulled in great shape
so a drag race engine could be installed. Uh, no. A dollar to a donut says
this one had been hammered too. Not taking a chance on that.

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Futility Man
Mark Olson
2018-07-25 23:53:40 UTC
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Post by Mark Olson
I'm with you. I think a used factory engine is almost always better
than a rebuilt, unless the rebuild was done by a very skilled machine
shop. And unless the engine happens to be a rare one, the used route
is frequently cheaper, too.
Apparently these engines developed bottom end problems if run hard with low oil.
I've found a full rebuild kit with crank, rods, pistons and all the trimmings
for a little over $900 and I have a nephew like McGuyver who has offered his
help and his machine shop, so unless a new motor falls out of the sky before
next week, that's where we're going.
Someone sent me a link to a motor that had been pulled from a Brute Force, which
is not a direct swap and the description said it had been pulled in great shape
so a drag race engine could be installed. Uh, no. A dollar to a donut says
this one had been hammered too. Not taking a chance on that.
When you add in the value of your labor, it's probably not the
cheapest way to go, but at least you'll have a solidly built unit
that you don't have to worry about having been thrashed mercilessly
like the Brute Force motor probably was.

When I had the cylinder head rebuilt[1] done on my wife's EX250 engine,
I was surprised to find I had spent quite a bit more than I thought
I was going to when all the miscellaneous bits were added up.

It was almost enough to have bought a complete low miles replacement
engine. But I know this one was done right, had really good compression
(I broke it in like I stole it) and now it's still nice and strong
a few thousand miles later, so I'm happy.

[1] I also had the bores honed by the machine shop and I installed
new rings.
The Older Gentleman
2018-07-26 06:16:02 UTC
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Post by Mark Olson
When you add in the value of your labor, it's probably not the
cheapest way to go, but at least you'll have a solidly built unit
that you don't have to worry about having been thrashed mercilessly
like the Brute Force motor probably was.
The danger with pulling apart an engine that has *known* failures is
that you invariably find several more (expensive) *unknown* ones.

I sell a lot of used engines, and the deal is always this:

"It's here, in the chassis, running. You can come and hear and see it
run, and if you don't like what you see and hear, you don't need to hand
over a penny. Oh, and if you do want it, you can help me get it out of
the chassis."

I've not had a single one turned down, not in seven or eight years. Not
one.
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